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 Post subject: The Search for an Eagle Dancer
 Post Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:38 am 
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I do not remember it clearly but it must have been in 1997 or so when I first learned about an old prophecy said to be from the Q'ero tribe in the Andes (neither this nor the exact content of this prophecy I could verify so far). The prophecy claimes that a new time is going to begin when the Condor of the South is again flying with the Eagle of the North. My first contact with this prophecy was not of the motivating kind of things you encounter in your life. I requested some more background information on an now long closed english board, regarding the prophecy. An American lady who obviously thought herself of being someone better was very snippish on my request and I decided to ignore the whole thing for years to come.

Years later I received some more information on it: for me it was an Native-American-Only thing which states that the Natives of the North are symbolized by the Eagle and the Indigenos of the South are symbolized by the Condor. Nothing of my business - I am neither a Native of North- nor of South-America. The exoteric interpretation obviously is of no interest for me. Even nowadays I had some problems with some of the more fanatic self-acclaimed "protectors of Native (North) American Spirituality" who blaim me for "exploitation" of Native Spirituality because I am referring to this prophecy and using the name Apu Kuntur, which is a quechua-term for the Spirit of the Condor. My arguments obviously are not being heared: Exploitation means at least taking some profit out from the action. I am still wondering about this point. I am spending much energy and money in following my vision and do not charge anything at all for the Condordances.

Since I am living with the Spirit of the Condor on a daily base in my common life I am learning much on the symbolism humans associated to and the Power of the Condor. Especially after I created the Dancing Costume this relationship is growing deeper and deeper, more intense then I ever had imagined.

Then I watched a documentary film on a meeting of tribal leaders of both Americas in Mexiko. Again I was confronted with the aforementioned prophecy which seems to be known in variations not only to the Q'ero. The documentary was quite surprising for me because it mentioned a certain interpretation of the prophecy I already have known for years: after the incident on the english board Condor explained the prophecy on an alchemical level of symbolism. Just this symbolism is mentioned in this documentary: The Eagle symbolizes Mind and Reason and the Condor symbolizes the Heart.

In 1997 I had the vision of a kind of special dance, which actually led me to the research on this prophecy. I saw a dance of me (as the Condordancer) and an Eagledancer, manifesting the Eagle and the Condor both at once in the dance. This vision sprang back into my mind and I began the search for an Eagledancer. Unfortunately this search is much more difficult then I expected. Until now I did not find any Eagledancer. Requests on official tribal Websites of America are being ignored, obviously they are thinking I am a "plastic" or something like this simply because I am an European. It seems to be impossible to find one Eagledancer here in Europe, too. So I decided in December 2007 to write this short article. I stopped the active search and rely on the Internet from now on.

So I am trying to find an Eagle Dancer in order to manifest this vision I had. So far it should be clear that this Eagle Dancer has to meet some requirements which I am describing now:

He or She should own a complete Eagledance costume made of feathers of the Bald or spotted Eagle, no fake-feathers. It is unimportant whether the dancer belongs to a NA-tribe or not because the Spirit of the Eagle manifests wherever it wants and is not bound to any culture - the Spirit of the Condor manifests through a Bavarian (me), so it is clearly not necessary being a Native.

Of course it is not sufficient only to possess this costume. The dancer must be able to manifest or embody the Spirit of the Eagle, become the Eagle - i.e. invoke the Eagle - during the dance. This is only possible when the dancer himself is practicing any kind of magical or spiritual practice which encourage this kind of shape-shifting. The trance of an Eagle or a Condor is quite exhaustive, so a good physical condition is necessary for this dance. A dancer should be able to keep up the trance at least 15 minutes without aching arms afterwards. The dance itself does not have any choreography except that both spirits are dancing during the dance. This is an important difference to the traditional Eagle Dances with a strict choreographic Setup.

My vision is to make this dance public - it could be possible that cameras are recording it and an audience of many hundreds is watching the dance live.

This dance is a spiritual thing and does not belong to any tradition. The manifestation of the Spirit of the Eagle and the Spirit of the Condor during the dance is a personal vision. When you are reading this text and know an Eagle Dancer or you are yourself one meeting the requirements then it would be a great idea when you contact me.

Yours

Apu Kuntur


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 Post Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:46 am 
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Apu Kuntur;
I have seen your Condordance. It is a truly magical connection. Thank you for sharing it with us.

I am not certain how possible it will be to find someone who has an equal ability to make or obtain enough eagle feathers to make such a powerful regalia. Here in the US, it is illegal for anyone to own eagle feathers unless you are NA and can prove it.

In a journey led by another shaman, I was given a cloak made of large black feathers that covered my arms and back. But nothing to the extend of what you have... which is here in this reality.

Much luck and blessings for your search. There must be someone to match you. The legend is strong and taught today - that the eagle (strength and technology) and condor (ancient wisdoms and knowledge) will fly together to help unite and heal the people and Earth.


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 Post Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:07 pm 
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Here in the UK it is not illegal to own Eagle feathers but it is illegal to trade them for money. I was gifted 4 Eagle feathers whilst visiting a Bird of Prey centre which was a wonderful gift from spirit and a confirmation for me at the time which I have honoured ever since.

It is, therefore, possible to legally obtain Eagle feathers from a bona-fide source where the birds are treated with great respect and care.

Who is up to the job, however, is quite another story. I would think that anyone attempting to do what you ask would need to have a VERY strong link to Eagle, a working relationship so to speak.


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Oh Joy

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 Post subject: I Sell the program-boat for the Scandinavian auction interne
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Can someone please clean up the threads - not only this one?

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