I heard in an article somewhere that a man converted to Christianity, but when he did so, his spirit guides turned out to be evil; he had previously joined many religions, although he sais that the spirit guides turning against him when joining christianity, show that they are evil and want to drive him away from the 'one' religion.
What are your views on this? Has a shaman converted to christianity and not had his spirit guides turn on him?

I have heard of this many times...It's just dogma and ignorance intended to frighten people away from their path. Scare tactics have been used by religions all over the world for thousands of years, with a lot of success I might add. Religious extremists will go to any extent to convince someone, not of their faith, to "see" their evil ways and follow that persons religion. In my core beliefs I am still a Christian. I have just chosen to accept my calling as a shamanic practitioner and in doing so I have received much criticism and condemnation from those who believe in the new testament and nothing else. It literally comes down to this one phrase "if it aint in the Bible, it must be false or evil".
Accepting my calling as a shaman has led me to see through those who blindly follow a religion. By seeing their true nature and short comings, I have come to pity them. I feel sorry that they cannot feel and see as we do...That they have lost a true connection to spirit and accept someone else's view of it. As shamans we have the privilege to have direct contact with our helping spirits/power animals, something that religious extremists do not. We can go and seek advice/wisdom directly from the source!

We as shamans, also have the honor of improving peoples health and well being...How could this be considered evil?

My friend... By even allowing yourself to question this topic, you are allowing these people/articles to get under your skin...Consequently it sways you from that which you know and is exactly what this type of propaganda is meant to accomplish!

Stay your course, walk with spirit...Go in peace.

walkthepath

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"Transcend the physical, cultivate your spirit...Only then will you shed your fear of death and time will have no meaning."

Very well said, walkthepath.

Agree with Walkthepath, for the longest time, certain elements of Christianity have sought to demonise anything which doesn't fit the recognised and accepted biblical version of spirituality. However, we all have free will so its really up to the individual to use that.

It's worth noting though that not all Christians are like this. A local vicar and I have some wonderful chats about our similarities rather than differences.

Indeed, hope people could read more about saint Francis of Assisi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_of_Assisi

When you are born, you possess three things, your primordial spirit, your assistant spirit, and your carbon-based life form. At this point you do not possess anything else. Your assistant spirit will guide you to knowledge, we can be a somewhat stubborn species. Some will listen to their assistant quite easily, others will fight it. Religion wants you to renounce your assistant spirit, and accept their assistant spirit as your own, by doing so, you will forever be led away from the truth. Religion is based on the kingdom of death, it is the covenant of their cult. If you accept their assistant spirit as your own, you will accept death, and you will do this willingly.

Your assistant spirit is not all knowing, if it were, it would be the creator itself. Religions will tell you that their assistant spirit is the creator, if this were true, the world would not be in the current state it is in. Your assistant spirit will guide you to knowledge, perhaps this guiding is a simple expansion of their knowledge and yours as well, to carry on the work, sort of speak. It is a contract, a covenant if you will, that you entered into before you were born. Some honor the contract, others do not, but that's life and its obstacles.

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There's battle lines being drawn, nobody's right, if everybody's wrong, it's time we stopped, hey, what's the sound, everybody look what's going down.

All is in God. As are we and the 'assistant spirit' guide that accompanies each of us. Introspection is the quickest path to Truth. Written religions are for those who prefer reading the words of men.

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Tata Nganga

Wow! Great words. I also like "church is where you find all the people who are asleep."

IMHO those who are religious, that is the path they have chosen, and some do it very well. All the words of the Bible can be summed up into "Love yourself, and love your neighbor".( That's all Jesus talked about.) Now that is not a bad thing.Should say New Testament..........

This was my background. Lived the 10 commandments. Were a happy family. But I wasn't satisfied, always looked for more. When I graduated and moved to a big city, I went to 3 diff. churches every Sunday. Still I looked..........

When I got disabled, I found a Shaman Teacher and we became friends. What I found was that it was in me the whole time! I'd been different since I could remember, knew things I shouldn't have been able..........etc.,etc.. I just had to stop life long enough to use it again. I didn't know there was a name for things that came natural to me!

At first my family didn't like it. If I started talking about experiences they walked away.. Now they listen. Do I want them to change? No?! They are good people and that is their path. That makes it the right path for them. But they give me the respect now, and realize I may not be so religious but I am more Spiritual than I have ever been!!!!!!!!!!!

Worry not about other's, just what you put in front of yourself. In time they will see your improvement and realize this is right for you. Whatever you choose, whenever you choose it.

Of course this is imho.............

I'm sorry, I mean no disrespect to Christians, but much of what causes spiritual dis-ease comes from beliefs such as those spread through Christianity.

The very belief that good and evil exist at all causes us to manifest punishment for ourselves and close of the parts of us that we believe to be evil. Sexuality is a prime example. So is the belief that being spiritually powerful is evil. These beliefs are no more than social and mental constructs, and only serve to harm.

Most of what I do is clear people of energies that judge aspects of their existence, and help them recognize how not to get let them back in.

I find it amazing that they fell back into the morality trap. I am not surprised their spirits did not want to help them promote those problems.

Again, I have no qualm with Christians, but it simply is not helpful.

From my shaman experience, I know others are different. There are only good and evil, black and white. Traveling to the spirit side, I've seen the place similar to hell. Hell is not any different from the grocery store down the road to me; I go there and see people tortured, big deal. I've been to the place where souls are lost to retrieve stolen and lost soul. I've traveled to many heaven realms or levels including the one that Jesus live inside those huge gold gate. I am beginning to suspect much of the bible may have come from shaman, either this or I'm not a shaman. My shaman people has verified the hell they saw being very similar to the one I saw. Some of us shaman's sole purpose is to aid the creator, making us an agent of the creator. This kind of shaman only accept the light, the power from above, we do not practice earth magic, we do not like dark magic and we follow the rules set by the creator which is the ten commandment. We cannot share food and we cannot eat left over. I can't eat pig nor goat. I can do the same thing the shaman that practice earth magic do, plus I get the power from above channel through me, because without the power your chant is weak. It is more powerful because it is directly from the source. Right, I did not learn any of these things, I just do it instantly and has verified much of it is real meaning that people got healed and things set in motion. All for the good of humanity.