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 Post subject: Sande society and others
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:14 am 
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I am going to do some shamanic work to wipe humanity of Female Genital Mutilation.

I'm pretty sick of this "tradition", and the people and spirits who may be feeding it.

Who is with me?


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 Post subject: Re: Sande society and others
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:00 pm 
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Unfortunately, even though you and I probably share the same distaste of this practice, it's not up to me to decide what decisions others make. However, I am more than happy to support those who stand up against their family and culture by refusing to allow their daughters to be circumcised. Everybody has a right to choose.

Perhaps we can support their education and choice rather than doing what so many other meddling westerners have done - force our beliefs on them!


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 Post subject: Re: Sande society and others
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:24 am 
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I am talking about unmaking the situation, shamanically. Whether the humans know I'm doing it or not is of little interest to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Sande society and others
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:50 am 
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resonantD wrote:
I am talking about unmaking the situation, shamanically. Whether the humans know I'm doing it or not is of little interest to me.


Is that even possible? Can YOU do that, or is Shamanism about what the Spirits do through us? You reference yourself 3 times in that post and show disregard for 'the humans' as you put it. Spirits don't work this way.


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 Post subject: Re: Sande society and others
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:09 am 
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Forest Child wrote:
Is that even possible?


Yes.

Forest Child wrote:
...or is Shamanism about what the Spirits do through us?


Then I'm not a "shaman".


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 Post subject: Re: Sande society and others
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:17 am 
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resonantD wrote:
Forest Child wrote:
Is that even possible?


Yes.

Forest Child wrote:
...or is Shamanism about what the Spirits do through us?


Then I'm not a "shaman".


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 Post subject: Re: Sande society and others
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:28 am 
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Yes, that is very much possible .. however, in this instance I am unsure whether it is ethical to do so ... there is always permission to consider ...

Go without permission and there will definitely be some kick back ..


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 Post subject: Re: Sande society and others
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:30 am 
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It is ethical not to?


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 Post subject: Re: Sande society and others
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:33 am 
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resonantD wrote:
It is ethical not to?


Very much so .. ANY disrespect of universal space is unethical


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 Post subject: Re: Sande society and others
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:36 am 
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That's not what I'm doing.


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 Post subject: Re: Sande society and others
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:45 am 
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resonantD wrote:
That's not what I'm doing.


I'm sorry, but in this instance, that is exactly what you intend on doing ..

Your saying that you intend going to battle with spirits who may or may not be involved in an act that has been a tradition within a certain culture for quite some time.

Personally, before I would even contemplate such a thing, I would journey to the spirits and sit down and have a damn good conversation with them before showing any kind of aggression towards them.

This is the way of the warrior, first discuss the issues, resolve them peacefully if possible and ONLY go to battle once all reasonable exchanges have been exhausted.


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 Post subject: Re: Sande society and others
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:04 pm 
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Can I ask you a different question?

I did a really serious land clearing yesterday. I was clearing anything that felt related to a type of spirit that has been attacking me. As in, sent me to the hospital once. I think some of what I cleared ended up being nature spirits, though, which is very strange since the attackers (apparently) aren't from this universe. They've been laying their influence down in this area, though.

How do I show the nature spirits I really do care for their well being, and make it up to any that might have gotten mussed up?


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 Post subject: Re: Sande society and others
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:29 pm 
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resonantD wrote:
Can I ask you a different question?

I did a really serious land clearing yesterday. I was clearing anything that felt related to a type of spirit that has been attacking me. As in, sent me to the hospital once. I think some of what I cleared ended up being nature spirits, though, which is very strange since the attackers (apparently) aren't from this universe. They've been laying their influence down in this area, though.

How do I show the nature spirits I really do care for their well being, and make it up to any that might have gotten mussed up?


Respectfully - stop doing what you think you are doing. I seriously doubt that you could have 'cleared' nature spirits so don't worry but perhaps it is time to reconsider why you have felt it necessary. Who is your mentor, what do they advise?


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 Post subject: Re: Sande society and others
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:53 pm 
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I now have one person I'm working with who can see things properly, but she is very busy and only answers email so often.

The trouble is I can't hear the nature spirits, I want to know how they are and interact with them more.


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 Post subject: Re: Sande society and others
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:42 pm 
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As I mentioned in another thread I am fairly certain that the spirits you are trying to mess with are seraphim ... or as I know them dragons ..

Now, it is absolutely pointless you trying to clear them, because they will only shift into elemental energy and re-form as necessary ..

They are around you for a reason and I would highly recommend you go and talk to them directly. They are in effect angels with armour and normally work in the darker realms. If you need to know more, then you are welcome to PM me and ask questions.

I will not discuss these further in open space because they are NOT for novices to be messing with.

Respect, Goldie...


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