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 Post Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:09 am 
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Hi everyone,

I am new to journeying (a month or so), and I really cant seem to get into it. I want to journey to the lower world and meet my power animal, but it just doesnt seem to work for me.

I listen to the drumming CD and try to relax and go with the flow of the beat, I state my intention, but nothing happens. I have tried many different beats, and sitting up, lying down down etc, but I just cant get into the trance like state.

I have also tried using the third eye technique, but nothing has worked. All I get is thoughts popping into my head, like 'what is for dinner' and 'is that something there?'.

I really need some help on this, can anyone please give me some suggestions of things to do to help me get into journeying properly? I read the book by Sandra (I forget the surname).
And some ideas for getting into the trance like state?

I really want to travel and meet the spirit world.

Many thanks
M


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 Post subject: Re: Help me please
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:47 am 
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Have you tried doing a more physical method to enter the journey space...like dancing or singing? We each have a different method for accessing spirit. Work your way through your senses and see which sense gives you the best access.
Shine!
Mark


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 Post subject: Re: Help me please
 Post Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:37 am 
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Thank you Mark for the suggestion
Sorry for the delay, I have been busy with a new job etc. But yes, I have tried singing and dancing, I just end up feeling myself turning red (through embarrassment not effort) even though there is noone else around.
I take it that I need to try to get rid of the insecurities, but I have the same thing when for example I am walking and nearly trip up, or when I almost fall off my chair, I go red even if noone is around to see it. (I must state that despite what I have just said I am not an overly clumsy person, nor am I elderly and/or frail).

Are there any tips for getting rid of this feeling? Or for clearing the mind so that the journey can begin? I have almost given up on the whole idea of journeying.

I would like to participate in a course, but all of the ones that I have seen advertised in the UK are basically held in village halls - complete with aroma-de-disinfectant and gauping teenagers at every window. I envisage more of a 'traditional' environment for my first journey, you know the kind of thing, some kind of outdoor wigwam with a fire, surrounded by trees, babbling brook etc.

I, like corn, am all ears.


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 Post subject: Re: Help me please
 Post Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:34 pm 
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Have you tried meditating or relaxing some other ways before the actual journey? Calming the mind makes it more receptive.

Turning lights off can also help. Maybe you need to create some kind of an atmosphere in the room/space you use for journeying?

But don't give up!
Have a nice journey. :)
shin


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 Post subject: Re: Help me please
 Post Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:45 am 
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practice visualization and open the third eye this stuff is pretty much impossible without the third eye open.


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 Post subject: Re: Help me please
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:13 pm 
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I know personally I had to work up to shamanic journeying. For me it was an organic process though. I had been really focusing on meditating at least once or twice a week for almost a full year before, mostly 3rd eye and other chakra meditations. At about the same time I was starting to get snippets of imagery while doing my daily lunch time meditation, I just happened to stumble across a movie regarding shamanism, and from there, it was like a journey down the rabbit hole and I kept finding different books that would outline different methods of journeying. I know that the year before, I would not have been prepared enough to journey

Also though, maybe you could try a "fake it 'til you make it" approach. Sometimes when I have trouble getting started, I let my imagination start the process and carry me where it will, then usually the spirit guides take over at some point.


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