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 Post subject: A Revelutionary, New Tribe of Shamans
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:17 am 
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Peace be upon All.

I am Abdullah Shariati,
and I have begun organizing my fellow shamans into a new tribe with it's
own system of government, a shamanic government whose laws are based
upon Islam.

I am a messenger of Allah and I know it is time for a new country ,
called the Black Wasp Tribe of Shamans , to arise.
Please do not prejudge, just give us a chance. Hear us out. Hear my message, join our tribe. To join, just tell me that you wish to be a
Black Wasp Shaman and I will tell you what your positions can be.


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ho to you, Raven's Sacred Voice.

I come with a pure heart. I do not want to join, but want to hear and learn. There is much to experience in all the worlds.


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 Post Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:58 pm 
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Rachara El wrote:
ho to you, Raven's Sacred Voice.

I come with a pure heart. I do not want to join, but want to hear and learn. There is much to experience in all the worlds.


Peace be upon you, Rachara El
Ask me what you wish, and I will answer, Allah-willing.
My message is that which has been spoken by Jesus,
Adam, Moses, Noah, Lot, Abraham, Muhammad, and
all the prophets before Muhammad, and all the Messengers.
I am to see the future, it is my gift. I am a shaman, and I
heal. My message is the Doctrines of Islam, and I am a
leader.

I respect your desire to hear and learn, it is honorable of you.


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 Post Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:23 am 
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Hi all

My experience is: shamanism is free of rules, free of dogmas, free of religion. It can be a base of religion, meaning a religion can grow out of shamanic expiriences.
And: shamanism is personal growing.

I will never take part in a self built community with people telling others what their position is and what they have to do. And I will for sure not support such an organisation.

Shamanism is free.

Good luck

*smile*
Wanderer


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 Post Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:30 am 
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Wanderer wrote:
Hi all

My experience is: shamanism is free of rules, free of dogmas, free of religion. It can be a base of religion, meaning a religion can grow out of shamanic expiriences.
And: shamanism is personal growing.

I will never take part in a self built community with people telling others what their position is and what they have to do. And I will for sure not support such an organisation.

Shamanism is free.

Good luck

*smile*
Wanderer


To 'conquer' yourself, submit to the Supreme Being.
To lead your family and friends well, submit your Self to the Supreme Being.
To 'conquer' or lead your city/community well, submit to your Self.
To 'conquer' or lead your state well, submit to your family and friends.
To 'conquer' or lead your regioun well, submit to your state.
To 'conquer' or lead your country well, submit to your regioun.
But do not 'conquer' or lead your world. That is too much for a group of
oligarchs and chiefs or such, or any kinds of leaders. Let The world begin
as you must; Let the world conquer it's self in it's own good time, while we
follow the commands of the messengers who are human and Allah's messengers who are the Spirits. Most people do not know what to do, nor
have they mastered self-control. This is why we have leaders who can advocate between those people and the Supreme Being.
But none are forced to do as the Black Wasp Government says, except
those who choose to be governed by it, and even then it is still a chioce.
A good leader submits his or herself to what he or she leads and governs,
and exhalts above his or herself what he or she leads and governs, and
knows what the Supreme expects.


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 Post Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:37 pm 
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Greetings All

There are many worlds upon a single planet. Some are like grand castles and some are like rubbish heaps. The first is very very small, the second is very very big. The first is governed by a strict regeme millitary type order and is brutal and murderous. They are the ants and smaller microscopic microbles. The second is loving kindness expanding and growing to fill every corner. They are the beetles, bugs and larger creatures such as humans and elephants in the macroscopic world.

Neither is good or bad.... they just ARE what they ARE.
The problem becomes when Humans pretend to be savage ants or savage ants become passive humans.

That is when order and chaos clash.

Remember who and what you are and live from that level of existance.
You are human when you are not journying...... if you feel you are not a human then you are still asleep. Wake Up!

With respect
Elizabeth


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 Post Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:18 pm 
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Greetings brother,I am also descended of the Cherokee/Choktaw people,the women of our people have always been the best healers and medicants,tribes traded with us from all over the country for our cures and medicines,even the europeans respected us for a time,I am curiouse how you came to the sufi way,I must admit my ignorance in this subject but perhaps your story would help me in my journey to understand our heritage,is it similar to our old ways of worship,I must admit that I find the Apache view to religion and worship a little more to my liking,where each manhas his own relationship with the spirits ,sometimes one man prays for everyone,sometimes a person prays or gives thanks and others join in if they feel the need or as the spirit moves them,to join a fellow I need to have confidense that this is a good thing and not the ego or self,show me that you are a good man and that you have the good of the world and the lord leads and guides you in all things,faith is trust, to trust blindly is foolhardy and can never come to a good end,history has shown this time and again,just consider the crusades,where two factions of basically the same religion and the same beliefs faught and died for centuries over something that was already theirs,Islam and Christianity and judaism are flys on the same horse,Evil men will always manipulate the ignorant,so please educate me in the rightness of your views and I will consider your request as honorable and good.


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Anthony Bellah wrote:
Greetings brother,I am also descended of the Cherokee/Choktaw people,the women of our people have always been the best healers and medicants,tribes traded with us from all over the country for our cures and medicines,even the europeans respected us for a time,I am curiouse how you came to the sufi way,I must admit my ignorance in this subject but perhaps your story would help me in my journey to understand our heritage,is it similar to our old ways of worship,I must admit that I find the Apache view to religion and worship a little more to my liking,where each manhas his own relationship with the spirits ,sometimes one man prays for everyone,sometimes a person prays or gives thanks and others join in if they feel the need or as the spirit moves them,to join a fellow I need to have confidense that this is a good thing and not the ego or self,show me that you are a good man and that you have the good of the world and the lord leads and guides you in all things,faith is trust, to trust blindly is foolhardy and can never come to a good end,history has shown this time and again,just consider the crusades,where two factions of basically the same religion and the same beliefs faught and died for centuries over something that was already theirs,Islam and Christianity and judaism are flys on the same horse,Evil men will always manipulate the ignorant,so please educate me in the rightness of your views and I will consider your request as honorable and good.


Peace be upon all.
My name is Raven's Sacred Voice, AKA Abdullah Hamza Shariati.
A sufi is a muslim mystic.
I do not want to promise that my views are definitely right, because maybe
I am wrong and unwise. I do, however, fully trust my views. My religioun is
called Islam, which means Submission, as in the same submission to the
Almighty that all the prophets, saints, martyrs and messengers have taught.
The Black Wasp Nation welcomes all faiths, yet are laws are rooted in Islam.
We want to unify and consolidate all the faiths in Submission to the Almighty. We are Native American muslims and we also want the land of our
forefathers rightfully returned to us from the U.S.A, because our forefathers'
dying wishes were that their lands would remaine in our hands. It is Islamic
Law that the dying wishes of people must be respected. We also have many
other goals, too.


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 Post Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:29 pm 
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Good day Ravens Sacred Voice,We were given the world,they only think they own it,and in that just for a while,U.S.A. is just 3 letters,we havent really lost anything,we just dont live where our grandfathers lived,let strive to heal this place,and together we will be a whole people,one world not just a country,ownership of the land was a european thing,we adopted too many of their ways out of convenience as it were,and along the way we lost ourselves,lets strive to replace our rightful self image and God and Allah will take care of the rest by smileing on our efforts. :wink:


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RAVEN'S SACRED VOICE, Peace be with us all, My Brother remember there is no right or wrong. You are walking your path. Walk it with no doubt! Because it is your TRUTH. Many Blessings , JIM


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 Post subject: Paths
 Post Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:45 pm 
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Peace be upon all.

In the Quran it says that there are three categories of people,
( well, it does not specifically say that, but the categories summarize the
human world) ;

A) The Believers, who believe in the Seen and the Unseen, observe the
Contact Prayers, ( Salat), and from God's provisions to them they give
the Obligatory Charity (zakat ) to others.

"They believe in God, the Last Day, and the Hereafter; They have nothing
to fear, nor shall they grieve",-Quran.

B) The Hypocrites, who tell you what is not truly in their hearts and who
knowingly commit sin and corruption.

D) The Disbelievers, who do not believe in God or The Hereafter or The Last
Day or the Unseen.

Any one, according to our Holy Quran who fulfills the criteria for what is
a believer is a muslim, even if they do not call themselves a muslim.
Ofcourse there are Bhudhists, Hindus, Jews, Christians, and others who
are muslims, so long as they submit to one God and fulfill the "Believer
Criteria", but also a beliver does not hesitate to join other believers or to
accept the Quran aswell as other Scriptures from God.

Black Wasp, A.K.A. AnnasAllah, ( People of God) is New Tribe of Shamans
God has told me to start, and our government is a Muslim Government
whose laws are based upon, founded upon, and/or found in The Holy Quran
and some of the previous of God's Scriptures.


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 Post subject: Re: Paths
 Post Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:21 am 
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RAVEN'S SACRED VOICE wrote:
Black Wasp, A.K.A. AnnasAllah, ( People of God) is New Tribe of Shamans
God has told me to start, and our government is a Muslim Government
whose laws are based upon, founded upon, and/or found in The Holy Quran
and some of the previous of God's Scriptures.


May I ask what 'Annas' means in the word AnnasAllah? From the most ancient sources, I understand An or Ana to be the most ancient word for the Divine/Creator. Anakhita being an ancient Sumerian name for the joining of both Earth and Sun Gods.

On a slightly different slant, recently I had a most vivid dream where many hawks descended to earth and turned into young tribal people of different tribes here to teach us. The return of the old wisdom, given by the new and vital young people may well be part of what you are doing. I don't know?

Whether we consider it or not, possibly we all live, think and work within certain man-made parameters and even indigenous shamanic cultures and teaching systems have their own hierarchies and rules. The ancestors require us to do certain things and they were once human too.

Many such groups of shamans are springing up around the globe. The Society For Shamanic Practitioners, The Core Shamanic Practitioners Group, The 4 Winds Society, the Circle of Tengerism, the Sacred Circle of Great Mystery Society and lots lots more.

I don't personally identify with them all or agree with their rules, ways, rites etc but then thats good that we are all different and they bring together like minded people to support and grow in positive power together.

I wish you well on your path Raven's Sacred Voice.


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LOL! I guess I have to buy bigger boots! Dennis


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Abdullah:
Michael Sloughbert also known real well as Mr. Crane from (Samms and Carson) medicine deck has flown away with the Dark Knights. Michael has gone on one of his night walks. . . Totally dedicated to the cult of the dark knights .
Did the Black Wasp medicine Tribe care to state positions of us going to India to find a spiritual teacher?


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